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Poster: grendelschoice Date: Sep 12, 2009 4:44pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I for one.....

As I think someone else already noted (i'm coming late to this thread) i also stand at opposite ends of the political specrtrum from Earl, but I absolutely applaud his non-political and sincere call for a moment of reflection on a date that is sad not just for Americans, but for any civilized peoples who believe killing innocents for any reason--and especially in the name of self-righteous fanaticism and hatred--is an evil the world could do without.

and I'm not one for piling on (I almost always take the side of the underdog if there's just cause), but honestly, Skies, even if I could excuse the insensitivity of trampling on what was a heartfelt and non-confrontational post by Earl, you lost any and all serious consideration or sympathy when you ranted that you don't believe Bin Laden and his cronies had anything to do with 9/11.

C'mon, man. Facts is facts, OK? There are bad people in the world, and these guys slaughtered 3,000 people who were just trying to live their lives. I despise Bush and his minions probably as much as you do, but you can't blame them for things they didn't do....when you do that, you diminish the moral authority to call them on the stuff they truly deserve to be punished for.

And again, all Earl was trying to do was acknowledge those who gave their lives 8 years ago trying to save others. There's nothing wrong with commending that kind of bravery and self-sacrifice.

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Poster: William Tell Date: Sep 12, 2009 7:59pm
Forum: GratefulDead Subject: Re: I for one.....

Better said, GC...I was attempting to articulate something along those lines. The point with BD's relatives, or any service men or women, is not that they might be war mongers (because they just as well might be pacifists thrust into a situation they'd just as soon not have been), it's the fact that when it comes down to it, those folks in WWI (or wherever) took the risks they did for the person to the left or the right of them, and for that, the morality of the larger enterprise is moot...their sacrifices can be appreciated independent of it...